"I started out working as a bouncer at a place called Erotique back in the early ’80s. It was the first big club to come into the area, a big strip club. And it was not nude. It was just topless, and there was no alcohol and no lap dancing. Then I went to another club called T&A. Again, no alcohol, no lap dancing. I came here in the early 90s, and it was totally nude. And so the girls were up on the bar getting their money and stuff, And then one girl came up to me and said, “A guy wants a lap dance.” I had never heard of it. So I went back to my boss, and he knew less than I did. And so what we did is, we put about six chairs towards the back of the club and said, “These are chairs so you can lap dance in.” And at that time we told the girls to charge ten bucks per song, and we would get three bucks out of it.

      And it got so popular, it was like a mad house, the line to get in and sit on these chairs,. And the funny things was, they did it in front of everybody else. Nobody got shy, nobody was embarrassed. Me, I would have been embarrassed with an erection with a pretty girl sitting on me and everybody else gawking. Because at that time you did have people leaning against the posts or whatever, just looking at the customers with the girls. And the girls didn’t seem to mind—and they were pretty girls.

      Eventually my boss, he got this idea. We took out part of the kitchen and we turned that into a lap dance room. We put like little cubicles up, with no doors because we wanted to see what was going on, and made like eight or nine stools. And ten the girls were charging twenty-five bucks, and we would charge the customers five dollars just to get into the room. It just took off. People were coming here not to see the girls on stage, but to do the lap dances. And I always said lap dancing is going to put prostitution out of business. And what I meant by that is that if a guy comes and gets a lap dance and puts on a condom and if he does spill a little bit, it’s not going to get on his clothes. Now there’s a plus; you can call that safe sex. I think that’s what a lot of men look at it as. They’re not going to take any disease home. They’re going to come to a place like this and if it happens, it happens—you know, if they have an orgasm. Then they go home to their wives."